Musing about the ND2.0 experiment

There are a number of currents flowing into the ND2.0 blog experiment. These reflect, differently, some certainty and uncertainty about the nature and purpose of the blog.

First, going into it, we understand that from a small, unpredictable email discussion list, members of the list will self-select to have a relationship to the blog as non-reader, or reader, or reader/participant.

Presumably the level of engagement of any list member with the blog has something to do with their sympathy/antipathy with a perception of the blog as a purposeful medium and “catch-basin” for their own engagement.

Second, there are specific announced vision/mission assertions with respect to the blog. These have already made the attempt to attract engagement, and, they also exist as a speculative suggestion about the future purpose of the blog.

Third, as I’ve mentioned, because the list is small and use of the blog as an expressive medium can be marked to actual participants, names can be named in the sense of knowing who is actually using the blog to express stuff.

Fourth, and maybe paradoxically, the list has come alive to some extent because of the ND2.0 initiative. This development could be quantified given that list activity is measurable over 13+ years.

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But what is the business of the list? In the run up to the blog development, over the past 8+ (?) years, it might be hard to describe the business of the list, since its unpredictability is partly a matter of how activity levels reflected ambivalence about its originating mission; how the group–over time–shrunk in size of membership; and, how uncertain any mutuality of purpose became over time.

(Since then we’ve surveyed some of these considerations, but it is my opinion this survey reveals a strange set of data that reads like an idealization. Again, this is seemingly the case to me because names can be named. If we strip away from postings all stuff related to the ND2.0 initiative, I don’t think we come up with a picture of the list as a predictably active place to generate responses to one’s, as-it-were, call.)

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The question about what the future of ND2.0 is, or futures are, is more settled than what the future of the list is. This is so even if the former represents an imagined state of future development.

Yet, I return to the idea that we can name names with respect to assessing inclinations. Well, *****, this interests, perhaps, only me!

Just from my own perspective, I “see” the blog as supposing an organic development based in inclination of a tiny subset of the list. Right now: Stephen and Eldon. It seems the blog grips Jer and Mike and Frank. Maybe Simon. But there isn’t any reason right now to assume exactly how gripping the blog is within the list overall.

Also, already and necessarily, a sub-set mini-list has broken out of both the list and blog so as to imagine the future of the ND2.0 experiment. This–at least–makes sense to me personally because it seems better to have this discussion outside of the ambivalent field of the list. which is to suggest what I’ve already stated: I see no reason to care much about what the list thinks about a project the list is ambivalent toward. Of course in using the term “list” in this way I’m pointing at the people who are ambivalent.

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  • Frank Rapport says:
    Well hoon, seems like you got the last word for this week.
    Good summary.
  • eldon says:
    yes, the state of things as they stand.
    i’m looking forward to writing more -into- this strand/thread — when i get the muse and the time… this week looking a leetle packed for my liking, with another UK trip slated for wednesday. still, the thoughts bubble up.
  • hoon says:
    Right now, it’s just Eldon and Stephen. Where’s Mike? Is he having thoughts? Frank? What happened, man? Then there are the seeming lost causes. Meanwhile the list sleeps.

    I should clone myself, like twice, and clone Lexie a couple of times. Within, maybe 20% variation. This all reminds of how long it took the list to become so desiccated.
    • Frank Rapport says:
      Stephen, it’s way too early to compare a short period creative hiatus as similar to the list dessication over time. I’m not going to point at you as a strident chicken little at the moment but there are natural cycles in an enterprise such as this where real life and daily concerns overwhelm any desire to constantly focus on this pursuit as well as slowing the flow of new content to the cause. The initial rush is caused by the emptying of our collective interest bladders in a frenzy of sharing and cross pollination.
      There has to naturally be a second phase where we integrate that into a new worldview and then as we resume our hunting we gradually resume this sharing on a much more sedate pace.
      New blood or the addition of someone else’s interest sphere should cause another surge, the new blood in having exposure to things previously unknown or unfocused, or say Harriet blessing us with her collective travels and musings.
      I just acquired a dslr and have been on several outings to bird sanctuaries where I once again realized it is the photograph not the camera. I’ve been dabbling with point and shoot digital until now but have made a commitment to this format and will be letting my 6X7 film apparatus go to someone waiting patiently for the right thing at the right price. Before I made this leap I spent almost 12 hours doing web research and another 6 hours, post, looking up cheaper alternatives to the brand name addons like a teleconverter and telextender which I then scooped off ebay for a reasonable price.
      So, hoon, to actually answer the question, I am nowhere near as focused or prolific as you are and at times I will appear mute if not totally absent.
      • eldon says:
        this is exactly what i might have said – um, if i were frank.
        as i say, thoughts bubble up, but then, bubbles are ephemeral, and like as not, i get them when in another activity that precludes my using the laptop. i write notes on a piece of paper and intend to write them up in a blog – huh! because i envisage someone here or here later might happen to find the thoughts interesting. but sometimes the time for doing so does not come up before something else happens.

        at the same time, i feel i should be devoting my writing and organising thoughts energy to producing academic papers which might actually enhance rather than detract from my ‘reputation’ and ability to procure fruther income.

        and the dslr, mmmm, now that is a good little toy. i have one at home, in oz. i did not bring it with me over here – size and weight considerations. so the old canon little thing suffices and well for leaving in shoulder bag until required when it is easy to zip out and shoot, and the results can be extremely good. [as you might remember frank, that one i uploaded to that _ephemeral_ site was shot with that little thing]. but as for time-taking… well, with the camera on board, a car trip takes twice as long, since we need to be stopping every so often for me to get out the camera – on a tripod – left lying in the back of the car for ease of getting out. and now the big P has a little digital video device, so he is getting up to speed on wrangling all that goes with the editing of that too…

        synchronicitously (?) two other mailng lists i read for academic reasons are now having tiny convulsions about purpose, so i want to use them as examples of what goes on, as generalisation… but when i do that, i think about organising my thoughts first… and hence in here now, you get this type of thought dribble instead of that essayed thought, because i am not organising what i am writing now, just doing it.

        and, i am now again in london, sitting at a kitchen table (earlier featured in one of my posts), and i forgot to bring my adapter plug and hence i have to write fast since i am down to 38% battery power… later i can borrow P’s to recharge, but the urge for haste remains. later today we are driving up to birmingham for a week. staying in cheapish hotel which i doubt has internet in the rooms – thus you may find my interjections intermittent for this reason. and so on.
  • hoon says:
    Yup on natural cycles and good reminder that I am in the most uncommon situation as far as having time to pour into the sink.

    But, as I said, whatever the trend is, it might take a long time. And, I give myself some credit for my own adjustment.

    Incidentally, I spent about two hours looking for group blogs. I found a lot…of dead ones. I was astonished to run across blogs that seemed to have dynamic first chapters and then the posting stopped. It was more a graveyard than a suburb of blogtopia.

    Since my phantasy is of a mash-up of disciplinary musings, and because the question of what kind of time commitment this needs is only answerable in practical manifestation, I’m beginning to wonder about how sticky a blog would have to be.

    However one of my original suspicions remains somewhat viable, because the blogs close to what I imagine, ones such as Crooked Timber, started from more vital origins.
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